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Xalq yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 El\u00e7inin APA-ya m\u00fcsahib\u0259si<\/p>\n

– Pandemiya g\u00fcnl\u0259riniz nec\u0259 ke\u00e7ir?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– Pandemiya \u00e7ox uzand\u0131… Teatrlardan, konsertl\u0259rd\u0259n, \u0259d\u0259bi m\u0259clisl\u0259rd\u0259n, gedi\u015f-g\u0259li\u015fd\u0259n uzaq d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f\u00fck. Bir ay deyil, be\u015f ay deyil, bir ild\u0259n \u00e7oxdur. Vaxt ke\u00e7dikc\u0259 adam dar\u0131x\u0131r. Ancaq n\u0259 etm\u0259k olar? M\u00fcdhi\u015f bir hadis\u0259yl\u0259 \u00fczl\u0259\u015fmi\u015fik. D\u00fczd\u00fc, vaxt bollu\u011fu yaran\u0131b, yaz\u0131-pozuy\u00e7un vaxt q\u0131tl\u0131\u011f\u0131 yoxdu.<\/p>\n

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– Dem\u0259li, bu g\u00fcnl\u0259r yarad\u0131c\u0131l\u0131q bax\u0131m\u0131ndan m\u0259hsuldar ke\u00e7ir.<\/strong><\/p>\n

– H\u0259.<\/p>\n

– Maraql\u0131d\u0131, n\u0259 yazm\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, n\u0259 \u00fcz\u0259rind\u0259 i\u015fl\u0259yirsiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– \u0130l yar\u0131m m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn az m\u00fcdd\u0259t deyil. Yeni pyesl\u0259r yazm\u0131\u015fam. \u00c7oxdan idi bilavasit\u0259 Ab\u015feron m\u00f6vzusunda hekay\u0259l\u0259r yazm\u0131rd\u0131m. Bu m\u00f6vzuda hekay\u0259l\u0259r yazm\u0131\u015fam, ba\u015fqa hekay\u0259l\u0259r d\u0259 var. Qaldoninin \u201cK\u0259l\u0259kbaz dul qad\u0131n\u201d komediyas\u0131n\u0131 t\u0259rc\u00fcm\u0259 etmi\u015f\u0259m v\u0259 sair ba\u015fqa yaz\u0131lar. Bunu art\u0131q demi\u015f\u0259m ki, m\u0259nim arxivim \u00e7ox s\u0259liq\u0259siz v\u0259ziyy\u0259td\u0259dir. Fikirl\u0259\u015fdim ki, imkan d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015fk\u0259n arxivi s\u0259liq\u0259-sahmana sal\u0131m. El\u0259 s\u0259n\u0259dl\u0259r, qeydl\u0259r, el\u0259 m\u0259ktublar, avtoqraflar \u00e7\u0131xd\u0131 ki, el\u0259 bil m\u0259ni ke\u00e7mi\u015f d\u00fcnyaya apard\u0131, S\u00fcleyman R\u00fcst\u0259m, \u018fli V\u0259liyev, Mir C\u0259lal, Mirvarid Dilbazi, Abbas Zamanov, Qabil, Tofiq Kaz\u0131mov, Cabir Novruz haqq\u0131nda essel\u0259r yazm\u0131\u015fam. Oxucular b\u0259zil\u0259riyl\u0259 art\u0131q tan\u0131\u015fd\u0131r. \u00d6z\u00fcm \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn d\u0259 bu g\u00f6zl\u0259nilm\u0259z silsil\u0259 davam edir. Arxivi s\u0259liq\u0259y\u0259 salmaq is\u0259 qal\u0131b bir t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259. Kitabxanam da el\u0259c\u0259 s\u0259liq\u0259sizdi, o da nec\u0259ydis\u0259, el\u0259 d\u0259 qal\u0131b. (G\u00fcl\u00fcr.<\/em>)<\/p>\n

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M\u0259nim \u201cAz\u0259rbaycan xalq mahn\u0131lar\u0131nda erotika\u201d adl\u0131 \u00e7oxdan haz\u0131r olan bir yaz\u0131m var. Yad\u0131mdan \u00e7\u0131xm\u0131\u015fd\u0131. \u0130st\u0259yir\u0259m, onu da \u00e7apa haz\u0131rlay\u0131m. G\u00fcman edir\u0259m ki, \u0259h\u0259miyy\u0259tli m\u00f6vzudur. Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc m\u0259tnl\u0259rd\u0259, h\u0259r halda oxuduqlar\u0131m\u0131 deyir\u0259m, erotika b\u0259z\u0259n vulqar t\u0259svir edilir. Erotika \u0259d\u0259biyyat\u0131n predmeti ola bil\u0259rmi? \u015e\u00fcbh\u0259siz. Ola bil\u0259r v\u0259 olmal\u0131d\u0131r. SSR\u0130 zaman\u0131n\u0131n absurdlar\u0131ndan biri yad\u0131ma d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr: \u201cBizd\u0259 seks yoxdur!..\u201d Ancaq erotika g\u0259r\u0259k erotika x\u0259trin\u0259 yaz\u0131lmas\u0131n. Bu \u00e7ox h\u0259ssas m\u00f6vzudur, daha art\u0131q d\u0259r\u0259c\u0259d\u0259 istedad v\u0259 b\u0259dii z\u00f6vq t\u0259l\u0259b edir. Az\u0259rbaycan xalq mahn\u0131lar\u0131nda erotika gizlind\u0259dir, z\u0259rifdir, inc\u0259dir, eyni zamanda g\u00fccl\u00fcd\u00fcr, ehtirasl\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Rus dram teatr\u0131nda Stalin haqq\u0131nda bir pyesim haz\u0131rlan\u0131b. Premyeras\u0131 pandemiyaya g\u00f6r\u0259 t\u0259xir\u0259 sal\u0131nd\u0131. \u00c7ox adama t\u0259\u0259cc\u00fcbl\u00fc g\u0259l\u0259 bil\u0259r ki, Stalin hara, El\u00e7inin yarad\u0131c\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 hara? M\u0259n son d\u00f6vrl\u0259rd\u0259 Sovet tarixi v\u0259 Sovet liderl\u0259ri haqq\u0131nda xeyli \u0259d\u0259biyyat oxumu\u015fam. H\u0259qiq\u0259t\u0259nmi uzun ill\u0259r ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir \u00f6lk\u0259 ancaq v\u0259 ancaq nifr\u0259t\u0259 layiqdir? Yax\u015f\u0131s\u0131 n\u0259 idi, pisi n\u0259? \u00dcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, bu \u00f6lk\u0259 nec\u0259 \u00f6lk\u0259 idi? Kommunizm n\u0259 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u015f\u0259r\u0259fsizc\u0259sin\u0259 iflasa u\u011frad\u0131? M\u0259n hans\u0131 \u00f6lk\u0259d\u0259 ya\u015fam\u0131\u015fam? Suallar \u00e7oxdur v\u0259 m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn d\u0259 \u00e7ox maraql\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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– Yazd\u0131qlar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 bildik. B\u0259s, yaz\u0131lanlardan n\u0259 oxuyursunuz? M\u0259s\u0259l\u0259n, bug\u00fcnk\u00fc g\u0259nc yazarlardan kimi oxuyursunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– D\u00fcz\u00fc, son d\u00f6vrl\u0259rd\u0259 b\u0259dii \u0259d\u0259biyyatdan daha \u00e7ox s\u0259n\u0259dli \u0259d\u0259biyyat oxuyuram. Ancaq m\u0259tbuat\u0131, \u0259d\u0259bi prosesi izl\u0259yir\u0259m v\u0259 bu, ilk g\u0259nclik \u00e7a\u011flar\u0131mdan bu t\u0259r\u0259f\u0259 m\u0259nim h\u0259yat t\u0259rzimdir. Bilmir\u0259m, yax\u015f\u0131d\u0131r, ya pisdir? Son d\u00f6vrl\u0259rd\u0259 oxudu\u011fum \u015fairl\u0259r i\u00e7\u0259risind\u0259 H\u0259diyy\u0259 S\u0259daq\u0259tin \u015feirl\u0259ri xo\u015fuma g\u0259lir. Onu oxuyanda hiss olunur ki, q\u0259l\u0259mi t\u0259bii v\u0259 s\u0259viyy\u0259li q\u0259l\u0259mdir, hissiyyatl\u0131d\u0131r. Hekay\u0259l\u0259ri, essel\u0259ri d\u0259 maraql\u0131d\u0131r. Ay B\u0259niz \u018fliyar\u0131n \u015feirl\u0259ri, A. \u018flizad\u0259nin, M\u0259hs\u0259ti Musan\u0131n feminist t\u0259may\u00fcll\u00fc v\u0259 c\u0259sar\u0259tli \u015feirl\u0259ri v\u0259 s. Mirmehdi A\u011fao\u011flunun hekay\u0259l\u0259ri istedadl\u0131 q\u0259l\u0259min ifad\u0259sidir. Sevda Sultanovan\u0131n v\u0259 Aliy\u0259nin m\u0259qal\u0259l\u0259rind\u0259 raz\u0131la\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m m\u0259qamlar az olmur, ancaq yax\u015f\u0131 c\u0259h\u0259t odur ki, onlar\u0131n teatra, kinoya, \u00fcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, s\u0259n\u0259t\u0259 yana\u015fmalar\u0131nda s\u0259viyy\u0259, toxunduqlar\u0131 m\u00f6vzularla ba\u011fl\u0131 s\u0259ri\u015ft\u0259 var. Az\u0259rbaycan teatr\u015f\u00fcnasl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n tarixi q\u0131sa olsa da, g\u00fccl\u00fc \u0259n\u0259n\u0259l\u0259ri m\u00f6vcuddur. \u0130ndi d\u0259 m\u00fcasir s\u0259sl\u0259n\u0259n o \u0259n\u0259n\u0259l\u0259r r\u0259hm\u0259tlik C\u0259f\u0259r C\u0259f\u0259rovdan g\u0259lir. Onun \u201cS\u0259n h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 m\u0259niml\u0259s\u0259n\u201d tama\u015fas\u0131 haqq\u0131nda yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cT\u0259klik faci\u0259dir\u201d m\u0259qal\u0259si teatr t\u0259nqidimizin klassikas\u0131d\u0131r. Bu g\u00fcn is\u0259 teatr, kino probleml\u0259rini qald\u0131ran, \u00f6z q\u0259l\u0259mi il\u0259 b\u0259sitliy\u0259 v\u0259 b\u0259dii avaml\u0131\u011fa qar\u015f\u0131 tutarl\u0131 s\u00f6z dey\u0259nl\u0259rin say\u0131 \u00e7ox azd\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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– \u018fd\u0259biyyat\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n da durumu g\u00fcll\u00fck-g\u00fcl\u00fcstanl\u0131q deyil…<\/strong><\/p>\n

– S\u0259viyy\u0259li \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259r h\u0259r g\u00fcn yaranm\u0131r. Bunun \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn zaman laz\u0131md\u0131r. \u018fd\u0259biyyat\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n bu g\u00fcn\u00fcn\u0259 qalanda… M\u0259n u\u015faql\u0131qdan \u0259d\u0259biyyat\u0131n i\u00e7ind\u0259 olmu\u015fam. Bir d\u0259 oxuyuram, el\u0259 adamlar\u0131n yetmi\u015f, s\u0259ks\u0259n illiyi b\u0259la\u011f\u0259tli c\u00fcml\u0259l\u0259rl\u0259 qeyd edilir ki, m\u0259n indiy\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r bu adda yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131 e\u015fitm\u0259mi\u015f\u0259m. Hardan peyda oldu bunlar? Bu g\u00fcn yaz\u0131lan \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259r\u0259 g\u0259ldikd\u0259, m\u0259n\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259, z\u0259if, s\u00f6n\u00fck, b\u0259z\u0259n d\u0259 tamam m\u0259tl\u0259bsiz yaz\u0131lar\u0131n orta statistik say\u0131 s\u0259viyy\u0259li \u0259d\u0259biyyat\u0131n say\u0131ndan \u00e7ox y\u00fcks\u0259kdir. \u018fsas problem budur. Bizd\u0259 oxucu problemi d\u0259 ciddidir. 1980-ci ill\u0259rin \u0259vv\u0259ll\u0259rind\u0259 \u201cMahmud v\u0259 M\u0259ry\u0259m\u201d roman\u0131 y\u00fcz min tirajlarla \u00e7ap olunmu\u015fdu, oxunmu\u015fdu . Ancaq el\u0259 o zaman da dig\u0259r \u00f6lk\u0259l\u0259rl\u0259 m\u00fcqayis\u0259d\u0259, oxumaqda birincil\u0259r s\u0131ras\u0131nda deyildik. \u0130ndi is\u0259 daha \u00e7ox geril\u0259mi\u015fik. Bunun da \u00f6z s\u0259b\u0259bl\u0259ri var. SSR\u0130 da\u011f\u0131landan sonra sistemin d\u0259yi\u015fm\u0259si, bazar iqtisadiyyat\u0131, ideologiyan\u0131n d\u0259yi\u015fm\u0259si v\u0259 s. Bir t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259n d\u0259 erm\u0259ni t\u0259cav\u00fcz\u00fc, biz\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u0259lmi\u015f ikili siyasi standartlar. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar h\u0259m maddi, h\u0259m d\u0259 m\u0259n\u0259vi bax\u0131mdan \u00e7ox ciddi kataklizm\u0259 g\u0259tirib \u00e7\u0131xartd\u0131. \u018fd\u0259biyyatda da, oxucular aras\u0131nda da…<\/p>\n

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– Y\u0259ni otuz ild\u0259 Az\u0259rbaycan \u0259d\u0259biyyat\u0131 bu kataklizmi ke\u00e7\u0259 bilm\u0259dimi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– \u018fd\u0259biyyat\u0131n, s\u0259n\u0259tin m\u00fcqabilind\u0259 30 il el\u0259 uzun m\u00fcdd\u0259t deyil. Bir d\u0259f\u0259 m\u0259nd\u0259n soru\u015fdular ki, niy\u0259 Qaraba\u011f m\u00f6vzusunda g\u00fccl\u00fc \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259r yaz\u0131lm\u0131r? D\u00fczd\u00fcr, Qaraba\u011f m\u00f6vzusunda g\u00fccl\u00fc \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259r var, ancaq z\u0259if \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259r daha \u00e7oxdur. M\u0259n d\u0259 o suala bel\u0259 cavab verdim ki, h\u0259min g\u00fccl\u00fc \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259ri vaqonlarda, yataqxanalarda b\u00f6y\u00fcy\u0259n o qa\u00e7q\u0131n, k\u00f6\u00e7k\u00fcn u\u015faqlar\u0131, h\u0259m d\u0259 yaln\u0131z onlar yox, \u00fcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, g\u0259l\u0259c\u0259k n\u0259sill\u0259r yazacaq. \u018fd\u0259biyyat\u0131n genetik yadda\u015f\u0131 \u00e7ox z\u0259ngin v\u0259 m\u00f6hk\u0259mdir. O, meyv\u0259 kimi yeti\u015fm\u0259lidir. Bu o dem\u0259k deyil ki, indi yaz\u0131lmas\u0131n. \u0130ndi d\u0259 yaz\u0131l\u0131b, yaz\u0131l\u0131r v\u0259 yaz\u0131lacaq.<\/p>\n

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– Sizin d\u0259 qeyd etdiyiniz kimi, zaman m\u0259fhumu \u0259d\u0259biyyat \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00e7ox \u00f6n\u0259mlidir. \u018fg\u0259r Sovet da\u011f\u0131lmasayd\u0131, siz “\u00d6l\u00fcm h\u00f6km\u00fc”n\u00fc \u00e7ap etdir\u0259 bil\u0259rdinizmi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– Yox, etdir\u0259 bilm\u0259zdim. 1983-c\u00fc ilin sonlar\u0131, 84-\u00fcn \u0259vv\u0259li idi, m\u0259n bu roman\u0131 yazma\u011fa ba\u015flayanda daxilimd\u0259ki senzura qay\u011f\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 tamam bir t\u0259r\u0259f\u0259 at\u0131b i\u015fl\u0259dim. Y\u00fcz faiz \u0259min idim ki, \u00e7ap olunmayacaq. Ya m\u0259nim b\u0259xtimd\u0259n, ya \u0259s\u0259rin b\u0259xtind\u0259n el\u0259 oldu ki, Qorba\u00e7ov g\u0259ldi, ara qar\u0131\u015fd\u0131, m\u0259zh\u0259b itdi, roman da \u00e7ap olundu.<\/p>\n

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–\u00a0Dem\u0259li, Sovet da\u011f\u0131lmasayd\u0131, bu \u0259s\u0259r sizin sand\u0131q \u0259d\u0259biyyat\u0131n\u0131zda qalacaqd\u0131.<\/strong><\/p>\n

– B\u0259li. Onu da deyim ki, m\u0259nim bu g\u00fcn d\u0259 sand\u0131q \u0259d\u0259biyyat\u0131m var. El\u0259 \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259r var ki, onlar\u0131 \u00e7ap etm\u0259yin h\u0259l\u0259 vaxt\u0131 deyil, onlar\u0131n tama\u015fa\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131, oxucular\u0131 bir k\u00fcll hal\u0131nda yeti\u015fm\u0259yib. Hara t\u0259l\u0259sirik? Demirl\u0259r ki, \u0259lyazmalar\u0131 yanm\u0131r? R\u0259hm\u0259tlik Araz Dada\u015fzad\u0259 deyirdi ki, oxucular iki qrupa ayr\u0131l\u0131r: istedadl\u0131 oxucular v\u0259 istedads\u0131z oxucular. M\u0259n nec\u0259 yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131 oldu\u011fumu dey\u0259 bilm\u0259r\u0259m, ancaq istedadl\u0131 oxucuyam.<\/p>\n

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–\u00a0\u0130ll\u0259r \u00f6nc\u0259 sevdiyiniz hekay\u0259l\u0259rin siyah\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 payla\u015fm\u0131\u015fd\u0131n\u0131z. H\u0259min siyah\u0131da \u018fkr\u0259m \u018fylislinin \u201c\u00dcr\u0259k yaman \u015feydir\u201d hekay\u0259si d\u0259 var idi. Bu g\u00fcn \u018fkr\u0259m \u018fylisli il\u0259 m\u00fcnasib\u0259tl\u0259rinizin yax\u015f\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 deyilir. \u018fylislinin h\u0259min hekay\u0259si il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 h\u0259l\u0259 d\u0259 eyni fikird\u0259sinizmi? M\u00fcnasib\u0259tl\u0259rd\u0259ki g\u0259rginlik o siyah\u0131dan bu hekay\u0259ni silm\u0259yib ki?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– El\u0259 deyil, \u018fkr\u0259ml\u0259 m\u00fcnasib\u0259timiz n\u0259 pisdir, n\u0259 d\u0259 yax\u015f\u0131. Sad\u0259c\u0259 m\u00fcnasib\u0259timiz yoxdur. \u018fkr\u0259mi bilmir\u0259m, ancaq m\u0259n buna t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcf edir\u0259m. B\u0259li, o hekay\u0259nin ad\u0131n\u0131 yen\u0259 \u00e7\u0259k\u0259r\u0259m, \u0259lb\u0259tt\u0259, \u00e7\u00fcnki bu g\u00fcn d\u0259 o fikird\u0259y\u0259m. \u018fg\u0259r \u018fkr\u0259m bu g\u00fcn z\u0259if, ya da xo\u015fag\u0259lm\u0259z n\u0259s\u0259 yaz\u0131bsa, bu o dem\u0259k deyil ki, onun d\u00fcn\u0259n yazd\u0131qlar\u0131n\u0131n da \u00fcst\u00fcnd\u0259n x\u0259tt \u00e7\u0259k\u0259k. \u018fg\u0259r onun yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 z\u0259if v\u0259 xo\u015fag\u0259lm\u0259z yaz\u0131lar\u0131 t\u0259r\u0259zinin bir g\u00f6z\u00fcn\u0259, h\u0259min hekay\u0259ni, ya da \u201cK\u00fcr q\u0131ra\u011f\u0131n\u0131n me\u015f\u0259l\u0259ri” povestini o biri g\u00f6z\u00fcn\u0259 qoysaq, bu hekay\u0259 d\u0259, povest d\u0259 \u00e7ox a\u011f\u0131r g\u0259l\u0259r. \u018fkr\u0259min t\u0259k qalmas\u0131, t\u0259nhal\u0131\u011f\u0131, sizd\u0259n gizl\u0259tmir\u0259m, m\u0259n\u0259 pis t\u0259sir edir. G\u0259r\u0259k bel\u0259 olmayayd\u0131. Ancaq bu t\u0259cridin s\u0259b\u0259bkar\u0131 \u018fkr\u0259min \u00f6z\u00fcd\u00fcr. Ola bilsin ki, m\u0259n yan\u0131l\u0131ram, b\u0259lk\u0259 o \u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc camaatdan t\u0259crid olunmu\u015f, t\u0259k-t\u0259nha hiss etmir? T\u0259ki bel\u0259 olsun.<\/p>\n

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– Sizc\u0259, AYB-d\u0259 olanlar, yoxsa AYB-\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 olanlar?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– \u018fd\u0259biyyatda olanlar.<\/p>\n

– Qar\u015f\u0131dan AYB-nin qurultay\u0131 g\u0259lir. S\u0259dr se\u00e7kil\u0259rin\u0259 namiz\u0259dliyinizi verm\u0259yi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrs\u00fcn\u00fczm\u00fc?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– El\u0259 olsa, g\u00f6z\u0259l bir komediya olar! M\u0259n cavan olanda da, sonralar da, g\u00f6r\u00fcrs\u0259n, indi d\u0259 tez-tez bu fikri deyirl\u0259r, yaz\u0131rlar, bel\u0259 suallar verirl\u0259r. O vaxtlar da, indi d\u0259 m\u0259nim o v\u0259zif\u0259y\u0259, el\u0259c\u0259 d\u0259 ba\u015fqa bir v\u0259zif\u0259y\u0259 he\u00e7 bir m\u0259n\u0259vi ehtiyac\u0131m olmay\u0131b. Bu g\u00fcn m\u0259n Xarici \u00d6lk\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259 Ya\u015fayan H\u0259mv\u0259t\u0259nl\u0259rl\u0259 M\u0259d\u0259ni \u018flaq\u0259l\u0259r C\u0259miyy\u0259ti – \u201cV\u0259t\u0259n\u201d C\u0259miyy\u0259tind\u0259 s\u0259dr oldu\u011fum vaxt g\u00f6rd\u00fcy\u00fcm\u00fcz i\u015fl\u0259r\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259 q\u00fcrur duyuram. 25 il xeyli y\u00fcks\u0259k bir v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015fam v\u0259 bundan da q\u00fcrur duyuram ki, Az\u0259rbaycan m\u00fcst\u0259qilliyinin \u0259b\u0259dil\u0259\u015fdirilm\u0259si i\u015find\u0259 \u00f6z s\u0259lahiyy\u0259tl\u0259rim daxilind\u0259 \u0259limd\u0259n g\u0259l\u0259ni etmi\u015f\u0259m. Bu g\u00fcn BDU-nun professoruyam. \u0130ndi bu q\u0259d\u0259r ill\u0259rd\u0259n sora gedib AYB-nin s\u0259drliyin\u0259 namiz\u0259dliyimi vers\u0259m, g\u00fcl\u00fcnc olmaz? Qoyun oturub, yaz\u0131-pozumuzla m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olaq.<\/p>\n

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– Ba\u015f nazirin m\u00fcavini El\u00e7in \u018ff\u0259ndiyev yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131 El\u00e7in\u0259 mane olurdumu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– Prinsipc\u0259, yox. O v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 oldu\u011fum d\u00f6vrd\u0259 \u00e7ox insan sevinci v\u0259 a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131, xo\u015fb\u0259xtliyi v\u0259 faci\u0259si, m\u00fcxt\u0259lif insan talel\u0259ri g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f\u0259m. Yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131 kimdir? \u0130nsan taleyini t\u0259svir ed\u0259n, onun hiss v\u0259 h\u0259y\u0259can\u0131n\u0131 ifad\u0259 ed\u0259n q\u0259l\u0259m sahibi. Mane\u00e7ilik yaln\u0131z vaxt bax\u0131m\u0131ndan ola bil\u0259rdi ki, bu g\u00fcn el\u0259 bil, h\u0259min ill\u0259rin \u0259v\u0259zini \u00e7\u0131x\u0131ram. \u0130ndi yazmaq \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn xeyli vaxt\u0131m olur.<\/p>\n

– Yarad\u0131c\u0131 adamlar v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 olanda onlar\u0131n sanki yarad\u0131c\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131na da yaltaqlan\u0131rlar. Siz bel\u0259 adamlar\u0131 tan\u0131ya bilirdinizmi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– Yalta\u011f\u0131 tan\u0131maq \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn x\u00fcsusi istedada ehtiyac yoxdur. M\u0259n v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 olanda da, olmayanda da h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 yalta\u011fa nifr\u0259t etmi\u015f\u0259m. H\u0259m d\u0259 yaln\u0131z \u00f6z\u00fcml\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 yox, \u00fcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259. \u018fvv\u0259ll\u0259r d\u0259 demi\u015f\u0259m, m\u0259n v\u0259zif\u0259y\u0259 g\u0259lm\u0259mi\u015fd\u0259n qabaq hans\u0131 El\u00e7in idims\u0259, v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 d\u0259, v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259n sonra da h\u0259min El\u00e7in\u0259m. B\u0259li, kiml\u0259rs\u0259 m\u0259n\u0259 yaltaqlan\u0131b, ancaq m\u0259n he\u00e7 kim\u0259 yuxar\u0131dan a\u015fa\u011f\u0131 baxmam\u0131\u015fam.<\/p>\n

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–\u00a0\u0130lyas \u018ff\u0259nidevin o\u011flu El\u00e7in, yoxsa El\u00e7inin atas\u0131 \u0130lyas \u018ff\u0259ndiyev? Sizc\u0259, tarix hans\u0131n\u0131 yadda saxlayacaq?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– M\u0259n ist\u0259y\u0259rdim ki, h\u0259r ikisini yadda saxlas\u0131n, ancaq bu, m\u0259nim ist\u0259yimd\u0259n as\u0131l\u0131 bir \u015fey deyil, tarixin i\u015fidir. M\u0259n bu g\u00fcn \u0130lyas \u018ff\u0259ndiyevin o\u011flu olma\u011f\u0131mla q\u00fcrur duyuram. Bu, m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn h\u0259r \u015feyd\u0259n \u00f6nc\u0259 aln\u0131a\u00e7\u0131ql\u0131qd\u0131r. M\u0259n \u00e7ox t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcfl\u0259nir\u0259m ki, \u0130lyas \u018ff\u0259ndiyev Qaraba\u011f\u0131n azad olundu\u011funu g\u00f6rm\u0259di, 44 g\u00fcnl\u00fck tarixi z\u0259f\u0259rin \u015fahidi olmad\u0131. \u00c7ox t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcf, \u00e7ox… O b\u00fct\u00fcn varl\u0131\u011f\u0131yla Az\u0259rbaycana, Az\u0259rbaycan\u0131n daxilind\u0259 d\u0259 Qaraba\u011fa ba\u011fl\u0131 idi. X\u00fcsusil\u0259 d\u0259 \u015eu\u015faya. O \u00f6z\u00fc F\u00fczulid\u0259n idi, F\u00fczuliy\u0259 d\u0259 olduqca ba\u011fl\u0131 idi. Bu ba\u011fl\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n ifad\u0259sini \u201cGeriy\u0259 baxma, qoca\u201d, \u201c\u00dc\u00e7at\u0131lan\u201d romanlar\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u0259 bil\u0259rsiz. Qaraba\u011f\u0131n ba\u015fqa b\u00f6lg\u0259l\u0259rind\u0259n olan adamlar\u0131n ham\u0131s\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u015eu\u015fan\u0131n yeri bir ba\u015fqad\u0131r. Bu g\u00fcn is\u0259 ham\u0131m\u0131z \u015fu\u015fal\u0131, ham\u0131m\u0131z qaraba\u011fl\u0131y\u0131q. \u0130kili siyasi standartlar d\u00fcnyas\u0131nda Ali Ba\u015f Komandan, h\u00f6rm\u0259ti Prezident \u0130lham \u018fliyev ortaya son d\u0259r\u0259c\u0259 c\u0259sar\u0259tli siyasi irad\u0259 qoydu. B\u00f6y\u00fck Q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259 \u0259ld\u0259 edildi. Onu da deyim ki, h\u0259min ikili siyasi standartlar \u201cDomokl q\u0131l\u0131nc\u0131\u201d kimi h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 Az\u0259rbaycan\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131 \u00fcz\u0259rind\u0259n as\u0131l\u0131b. O h\u0259y\u0259canl\u0131 v\u0259 unudulmaz 44 g\u00fcnd\u0259 kitabxanamda axtar\u0131b general-mayor Denstervilin 1925-ci ild\u0259 Tiflisd\u0259 n\u0259\u015fr olunmu\u015f xatir\u0259l\u0259rini tap\u0131b, t\u0259z\u0259d\u0259n g\u00f6zd\u0259n ke\u00e7irdim. Bu xatir\u0259l\u0259r 100 il bundan \u0259vv\u0259l d\u0259 Az\u0259rbaycana qar\u015f\u0131 y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fcl\u0259n ikili standartlar\u0131n \u0259yani g\u00f6st\u0259ricisidir. Bak\u0131 \u0259ld\u0259n gedirdi. Tariximizd\u0259 bel\u0259 faktlar \u00e7ox olub.<\/p>\n

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– Bu g\u00fcn q\u0131zlar\u0131n\u0131z kifay\u0259t q\u0259d\u0259r yax\u015f\u0131 v\u0259zif\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r. Deyirl\u0259r ki, El\u00e7inin q\u0131zlar\u0131n\u0131n bug\u00fcnk\u00fc m\u0259qama g\u0259lm\u0259sind\u0259 El\u00e7inin ad\u0131n\u0131n b\u00f6y\u00fck rolu olub. Bu fikirl\u0259r\u0259 nec\u0259 bax\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– \u00c7ox primitiv dedi-qodudur. \u018fsil \u201cobivatel\u201d t\u0259f\u0259kk\u00fcr t\u0259rzidir. B\u0259y\u0259m demirdil\u0259r ki, El\u00e7inin pyesl\u0259rini v\u0259zif\u0259sin\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259 tama\u015faya qoyurlar? Bunu da \u00e7ox vaxt el\u0259 adamlar deyirdi ki, onlar\u0131n teatrdan x\u0259b\u0259ri yoxdur. M\u0259nim pyesl\u0259rim \u0130ngilt\u0259r\u0259d\u0259, \u0130taliyada, T\u00fcrkiy\u0259d\u0259, n\u0259 bilim, Koreyada, Rusiyada, siyah\u0131n\u0131 uzatmaq ist\u0259mir\u0259m, ba\u015fqa \u00f6lk\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259 tama\u015faya qoyulur. \u201cQatil\u201d pyesi Nyu-Yorkda, Brodveyd\u0259 tama\u015faya qoyulub, m\u0259n Amerikan\u0131n Prezidentin\u0259 z\u0259ng edib demi\u015f\u0259m ki, bax ha, m\u0259n Az\u0259rbaycanda Ba\u015f nazirin m\u00fcaviniy\u0259m, m\u0259nim \u0259s\u0259rimi tama\u015faya qoy? “Mahmud v\u0259 M\u0259ry\u0259m” y\u00fcz min tirajla, yaxud Moskvada hekay\u0259 v\u0259 povestl\u0259rim iki y\u00fcz \u0259lli min tirajla n\u0259\u015fr olunanda, sat\u0131landa b\u0259y\u0259m m\u0259n v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 idim? Bo\u015f v\u0259 g\u00fcl\u00fcnc s\u00f6hb\u0259tl\u0259rdir. M\u0259n bu c\u00fcr cahil dedi-qodusuna, b\u0259z\u0259n d\u0259 q\u0259r\u0259zli qrafoman yan\u0131b-t\u00f6k\u00fclm\u0259l\u0259rin\u0259 he\u00e7 vaxt cavab vermir\u0259m. Buna iyn\u0259nin ucu q\u0259d\u0259r d\u0259 m\u0259n\u0259vi ehtiyac\u0131m olmay\u0131b. Bir d\u0259f\u0259 demi\u015f\u0259m, yen\u0259 t\u0259krar edir\u0259m: \u0259g\u0259r m\u0259nim yazd\u0131qlar\u0131m da, f\u0259aliyy\u0259tim d\u0259 bu c\u00fcr dedi-qodulara, bu c\u00fcr nadan p\u00fcsk\u00fcrm\u0259l\u0259rin\u0259 davam g\u0259tirm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259ks\u0259, onda yax\u015f\u0131 edib deyirl\u0259r, yaz\u0131rlar.<\/p>\n

– Son hekay\u0259l\u0259rinizd\u0259n olan “A\u011fadada\u015f\u0131n ki\u015fi s\u00f6z\u00fc” hekay\u0259sind\u0259n sonra bel\u0259 bir fikir s\u0259sl\u0259nir ki, El\u00e7in bu g\u00fcn\u00fcn adamlar\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131m\u0131r. Bu fikr\u0259 m\u00fcnasib\u0259tiniz nec\u0259dir?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– \u018fvv\u0259la, indic\u0259 dedikl\u0259rim t\u0259nqid\u0259 yox, dedi-qoduya, \u201cob\u0131vatel\u201d t\u0259f\u0259kk\u00fcr\u00fcn\u0259 aiddir. A\u011fadada\u015f is\u0259 b\u0259y\u0259m Marsda ya\u015fay\u0131r? A\u011fadada\u015f da bu d\u00fcnyan\u0131n adam\u0131d\u0131r d\u0259. Sad\u0259c\u0259, sosial \u015f\u0259b\u0259k\u0259l\u0259r d\u00fcnyas\u0131ndan uzaq adamd\u0131r. Sosial \u015f\u0259b\u0259k\u0259d\u0259n uzaq olan adam adam deyil? A\u011fadada\u015f sad\u0259 bir ki\u015fidir, onun haqq\u0131nda da yazmaq laz\u0131md\u0131r, ya yox? Bu da lap Sovet d\u00f6vr\u00fcn\u00fcn s\u00f6hb\u0259tl\u0259rin\u0259 ox\u015fay\u0131r. Nec\u0259 ki, o vaxt deyirdil\u0259r, x\u0131rda, ki\u00e7ik, c\u0131l\u0131z adamlardan yazmay\u0131n. Bel\u0259 \u015feyl\u0259r\u0259 fikir verm\u0259yin. \u018fd\u0259biyyat \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn x\u0131rda, ki\u00e7ik, c\u0131l\u0131z adam yoxdur.<\/p>\n

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– “Mahmud v\u0259 M\u0259ry\u0259m”, “A\u011f d\u0259v\u0259”, “\u00d6l\u00fcm h\u00f6km\u00fc”, \u201cBa\u015f\u201d kimi romanlar yazm\u0131\u015f El\u00e7in \u00f6z\u00fc bar\u0259d\u0259 n\u0259 dey\u0259r?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– B\u0259lk\u0259 t\u0259vaz\u00f6kar s\u0259sl\u0259nm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k, ancaq m\u0259n \u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc xo\u015fb\u0259xt yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131 hesab edir\u0259m. Bu m\u0259nada ki, \u0259s\u0259rl\u0259rimin b\u00f6y\u00fck bir hiss\u0259sini Sovet d\u00f6vr\u00fcnd\u0259 yazm\u0131\u015fam. Ancaq o romanlar\u0131n, povestl\u0259rin, hekay\u0259l\u0259rin, pyesl\u0259rin, h\u0259tta m\u0259qal\u0259 v\u0259 monoqrafiyalar\u0131n da bir n\u00f6qt\u0259sin\u0259, verg\u00fcl\u00fcn\u0259 d\u0259ym\u0259d\u0259n bu g\u00fcn m\u00fcst\u0259qil Az\u0259rbaycan oxucusuna t\u0259qdim edir\u0259m. O oxucuya ki, onun t\u0259f\u0259kk\u00fcr\u00fc, onun d\u00fcnya g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc il\u0259 Sovet d\u00f6vr\u00fcn\u00fcn ideologiyas\u0131 bir-biri il\u0259 daban-dabana ziddir. Sovet d\u00f6vr\u00fcnd\u0259 o q\u0259d\u0259r yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131lar var idi ki, yazd\u0131qlar\u0131n\u0131 da Sovet \u0130ttifaq\u0131 \u00f6z\u00fc il\u0259 apard\u0131. M\u0259n xo\u015fb\u0259xt\u0259m ona g\u00f6r\u0259 ki, bel\u0259 bir tragediyadan uza\u011fam.<\/p>\n

– Niy\u0259 El\u00e7in?<\/strong><\/p>\n

– El\u00e7in yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131d\u0131r, El\u00e7in \u018ff\u0259ndiyev is\u0259 v\u0259zif\u0259 adam\u0131. Z\u0259hm\u0259t olmasa, siz d\u0259 yazars\u0131n\u0131z ki, Xalq yaz\u0131\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 El\u00e7inl\u0259 m\u00fcsahib\u0259…<\/p>\n

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